Monday, July 27, 2015
Ind. Gov't. - "Deregulation of engineers draws fire"
That is the heading of Niki Kelly's comprehensive story this weekend in the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette on Indiana's moves to deregulate many professions. Some quotes from the long story:
Engineers, home inspectors, hearing aid dealers and auctioneers should no longer be licensed or regulated by the state, according to a committee reviewing the dozens of occupations the state oversees.Next comes some valuable history:
The Jobs Creation Committee has issued preliminary findings on 11 occupations but more public hearings are expected. And the Indiana General Assembly would have to vote to eliminate the licensing in the next session.
The engineering recommendation is getting the most attention so far.
“A century ago, anyone could work as an engineer without proof of competency. Now every state regulates the practice of engineering to ensure public safety by granting only (professional engineers) the authority to sign and seal engineering plans and offer their services to the public,” said Scott S. Haraburda, president of the Indiana Society of Professional Engineers.
“If the recommendations are implemented, Indiana will be the only state that fails to license and regulate its engineers, a dangerous risk that Hoosiers cannot afford to take.”
The legislature in recent years has sought to examine the possible deregulation of several occupations overseen by the Indiana Professional Licensing Agency.
This is the third iteration of the committee, though the title and the members have changed several times.The story looks closely at the engineering deregulation issue, and then concludes:
First it was the Indiana Regulated Occupations Evaluation Committee in 2011, which recommended the elimination of several licenses. But in 2012 a swarm of cosmetologists and barbers blocked the move.
Then the legislature changed the committee to ERASER, which meant Eliminate, Reduce, and Streamline Employee Regulation Committee.
In 2014, the name of the committee was changed again to the Jobs Creation Committee but its task was the same – a five-year review of dozens of occupations and their licensing requirements.
Nicholas Goodwin, spokesman for the Indiana Professional Licensing Agency, said the newest committee released its first annual report this month.
The agency is an umbrella for 38 boards, commissions and committees, and regulates more than 70 professional licenses. In all, the agency regulates about 470,000 actively licensed professionals, meaning almost one in seven working Hoosiers are licensed by the agency. In looking at all of the agencies that regulate professions, 1 in 4 Hoosiers must be licensed to go to work every day.
Rep. Dave Wolkins, R-Warsaw, served on the original committee and remembers how hard it was to deregulate an occupation.
“It is an important discussion to have,” he said. “There are studies that show licensing is an impediment to jobs. They keep people out. But due to the pressure from the groups it’s very difficult to get anything done.”
He took heat from the cosmetologists and barbers for being involved in that effort. Wolkins said in general people in a profession feel it should remain licensed to protect their turf as well as the money and time they spent getting the license.
He doesn’t know specifically about the engineer recommendation but questioned why engineers would be deregulated but not architects.
“If you have an engineering degree why should the state be deciding if you are a competent engineer? I could understand and maybe even buy in but that will be hard to get through,” he said.
The committee also voted to eliminate licensing for home inspectors, hearing aid dealers and auctioneers.The ILB has a number of historical entries on the deregulation efforts. Here is a post from the first go-around, in 2012, headed "Ind. Law - "Hairdressers may have killed bill that would eliminate licensing," and a follow-up from the next day.
Here is what the minutes said on each of those items:
Home inspectors – “a consumer rarely chooses who their home inspector is or the company they work for as their real estate broker working on behalf of the consumer typically chooses the individual. Private sector and marketplace economic principles will weed out bad actors, and the government’s involvement in licensing these individuals is unnecessary.”
Hearing aid dealers - “Consumers seeking hearing aids are already under the care of a physician and licensing this practice was redundant. Only two hearing aid dealer licenses have been revoked since 2008 in Indiana so the JCC feels that the threat of consumer harm is minimal.”
Auctioneers – “The JCC felt this profession would be a good candidate for the self-certification registry.”
Then in 2013 the ILB had a number of posts on the new "ERASER" committee (Eliminate, Reduce, and Streamline Employee Regulation Committee), which replaced the "Regulated Occupations Evaluation Committee" (ROEC).
Posted by Marcia Oddi on July 27, 2015 09:28 AM
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